Data Analytics Chat
Welcome to Data Analytics Chat – your podcast exploring the world of Data and AI!
In each episode, we explore the latest trends and pressing topics shaping the world of data science and AI. But we don’t stop there - we also look into the career journeys of professionals across the industry, highlighting the paths they’ve taken, the hurdles they’ve overcome, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way.
Join us for insightful conversations with leading data experts as they share personal experiences, challenges, and practical advice to help you grow in your own career.
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Data Analytics Chat
What It’s Really Like Being a CDO in 2025, with Aaron Hand (Chief AI Officer at ArcelorMittal)
In this episode of Data Analytics Chat, host Ben Parker sits down with Aaron Hand, Chief Artificial Intelligence Officer at ArcelorMittal, to reveal what life is really like in the C-suite.
With a career spanning UBS, Holcim, and now leading AI strategy at one of the world’s largest manufacturing companies, Aaron shares candid insights on the challenges, pressures, and strategic thinking required to succeed as a modern CDO or CAIO.
You'll discover:
- What a typical day looks like at the CDO/CAIO level
- How to juggle innovation, governance, and business delivery
- Why many CDOs don’t last more than 18 months — and how to survive
- The power of domain knowledge, adaptability, and knowing your blind spots
- How a WhatsApp idea revolutionised cement sales
- Why “AI-first” needs to be more than a buzzword
🎧 A must-listen for data professionals, leaders, and anyone eyeing the C-suite in data & AI.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 – Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:41 – Aaron Hand's Early Career Journey
02:26 – Transition into AI and Big Data
03:38 – Career Progression at UBS
05:21 – Leading AI at Holcim
07:28 – Inside the Role of a Chief AI Officer
16:39 – Managing Expectations and AI Hype
25:27 – The Value of Great Mentors and Managers
26:11 – Listening, Trust, and Collaboration
26:44 – Innovation from the Ground Up: WhatsApp Sales Case
28:06 – Workshops, Hackathons & Cross-Functional Teams
29:34 – Flexibility in Strategy and Delivery
35:48 – Continuous Learning & Staying Ahead with Podcasts
40:04 – Major Setbacks, Mergers, and Resilience
43:16 – Career Reflections and Proud Moments
46:19 – Final Thoughts and Encouragement for Aspiring Leaders
Thank you for listening!